📘 Guest: Joel Schwartzberg, author of Get to the Point & The Language of Leadership
In this episode, we cut through the noise and get straight to the point—literally. Communication expert and author Joel Schwartzberg returns to discuss the art and science of clarity in communication. Whether you’re a leader, innovator, speaker, or simply want to stop rambling and start resonating, this episode is packed with practical, game-changing advice.
00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message
00:29 The Importance of Having a Point
01:15 Welcoming the Author: Joel Schwartzberg
01:34 The Curse of Cassandra and Innovation
03:17 Communication in the Age of Remote Work
04:14 Engaging Introverts in Virtual Meetings
05:08 The Value of Different Communication Platforms
05:29 Personal Anecdote: The Pin Story
05:59 The Problem with Descriptive Communication
07:28 The Concept of Making a Point
11:42 The Role of AI in Communication
17:31 The Skill of Presentation
24:16 Demi Moore’s Impactful Speech
30:53 Defining a Point
34:04 The Importance of X and Y in Achieving Goals
34:46 Empowering Introverts and Neurodiverse Individuals
35:06 Everyone is in Sales: Selling Ideas Effectively
35:44 The XY Test and Truism Buster Test
36:23 The Power of Making a Point
37:56 Effective Introductions and Delivering Points
42:03 Handling Interruptions and Making Your Point
43:44 The Importance of Endings and Pausing
48:34 Raising Volume and Emotional Contagion
54:05 Sharpening Your Point with Specific Tactics
58:22 Sticking the Landing: Ending with Impact
59:43 Final Thoughts and Resources
💡 If you’ve ever struggled to communicate a big idea or felt your message wasn’t landing—this episode is your ultimate toolkit.
🔗 Show Notes & Resources:
Joel’s website: joelschwartzberg.net
Book: Get to the Point (Updated 10-Year Anniversary Edition)Sponsored by: Kyndryl.com
Innovation Show https://thethursdaythought.substack.com