EP 233: Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? with Frans de Waal

Frans de Waal. overturns the view of animals as stimulus-response beings and opens our eyes to their complex and intricate minds. With astonishing stories of animal cognition, his work challenges everything you thought you knew about animal – and human – intelligence. We welcome author of Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are?, Frans de Waal.